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Oh shit. They were squirrels. Babies. They could be live-caught. I did not have to kill them. They were poisoned with something that would make them seek out water, so they would have died anyway - but the exterminator thought they were rats based on their poop. He did live catch one, the dad, but thinking they poisoned based on his diagnosis of "roof rats." The poison was to drive them out to die outside and not stink up the walls. They would have died anyway. I hope. Now we are going 100% live trap, and I bitched out the manager for letting the exterminator put poison up there without consulting me. He didn't want me to know because I stated I didn't want killing. Great. But I killed squirrels, baby squirrels.

Date: 2008-01-29 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grymnir.livejournal.com
umm...not to be too harsh but they ARE tree rats, rodents, of a sort AND they are eating your windows AND they can operate as a disease vector just as "traditional" rats do.

Date: 2008-01-29 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_blackjack_/
How is that worse than killing rats, exactly?

Date: 2008-01-29 08:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Duh, they have tails. And huge dark doe-eyes. And they squeak like squirrels. And they have tails.

Date: 2008-01-29 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_blackjack_/
Rats have real personality, tho.

Date: 2008-01-30 09:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_blackjack_/
And it always comes down to appearance with you, doesn't it? ;)

Date: 2008-01-29 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pastor-saturn.livejournal.com
Whoa, whoa. You told the exterminator SPECIFICALLY to do something a certain way. He didn't do it; in fact he deliberately went against your wishes and THEN tried to cover up by not telling you. Like you, I'm really sorry they died, but I don't think you killed them.

I'll get over it

Date: 2008-01-29 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
I can excuse what I did based on being weary, those circumstances, and a thousand otehr reasons retoactively. I can rationalize it away. But I killed doe-eyed lil baby squirrels.

Date: 2008-01-29 08:42 pm (UTC)

Yes mom I am a squirrel lover...

Date: 2008-01-29 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jessiebeans.livejournal.com
It's ok. But I am glad you had it out with the exterminator. and Squirrel poop is a bit wider than rat or mouse poop LOL

Date: 2008-01-29 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] judgefudge.livejournal.com
Well, now you've solved the problem of "Has anyone seen a baby squirrel?"

I agree with [livejournal.com profile] grymnir. They may be cute and less disagreeable, but they are a disease vector and therefore vermin. You should only get your diseases from your dates, never rodents.

Date: 2008-01-29 09:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
But the fleas that I caught from the dead baby squirrel were far more adorable than the ones off some filthy rat.

Girls like tall guys. Guys like skinny girls with huge breasts. People love rats with tails.

Date: 2008-01-30 05:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calibraxis-x.livejournal.com

i prefer a healthy girl with huge breasts, for the record.

Date: 2008-01-30 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
I'm not a fan of the hooters, myself. Love an a-cup, b is ok too.

Date: 2008-01-29 10:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] railwaymadness
Killing things is always a last resort and they're not as bad as actual rats but I hate those goddamn squirrels. Stop digging up my garden, you inconsiderate bastards. I hated those cats that were under my shed, too, (you know how fun it is to be innocently gardening and suddenly find there's cat poo on you? Not fun. Keep your animals to yourselves, people.) but at least they killed and ate a squirrel that one time, so it wasn't a complete loss.

Sorry you feel bad about it but you have my complete support in any future squirrel killing you may wish to undertake.

Date: 2008-01-29 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Home Depot has organic pest-b-gone stuff. It's concentrated black pepper stuff with some other things that hurt to taste, touch, and smell.

Date: 2008-01-30 03:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eac.livejournal.com
:(

I am also fond of squirrels (even though they're a nuisance), so I'm sorry you were inadvertently connected with their death.

Date: 2008-01-30 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cweaselle.livejournal.com
You had no idea they were squirrels & if you told the land lord you didn't want them killed there is no blame on you except what you lay on yourself.

Date: 2008-01-30 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wikkidgothbabe.livejournal.com
i don't see exactly how YOU killed them. Seems to me the blame lies solely with the exterminator & landlord.

Date: 2008-01-30 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Well my hands had something to do with it.

Date: 2008-01-30 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calibraxis-x.livejournal.com

dude, the killing of the squirrels is not much compared to the suffering and dying that the animals you ate today were subjected to.

Date: 2008-01-30 09:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
I'm mostly veggie

Date: 2008-01-30 11:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calibraxis-x.livejournal.com
mostly, huh????

i was just kidding around, you know.

although it is true...but the self-righteous tone up there was, like, ironic. or was supposed to be.
:P

Date: 2008-01-31 06:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] virgogirl.livejournal.com
whenever something like this happens i always comfort myself by thinking "right now, somewhere in the world, some horrible injustice is being paid to someone" or the like, or i think of all of the suirrels being killed today...

lol that sounds fecetious but actually it makes me feel calmer just to realize that pain and suffering is part of the nature of the world, and completely beyond my control, even though at the same time i feel it's our duty to reduce pain and suffering with love and companssion, first towards ourselves.

i get freaked out about the recycling/reducing thing too, and then i just stop and think of all of the factories at any given moment making all of the paper and plastic and stuff...and me wasting a second of happiness over feeling guilty because my food came in a plastic container and now i feel bad throwing it out because i have no more room in my cupboards, that's a second i will never get back. Smart People with actual power and ability are working on that shit, and me keeping it or throwing it away is like pissing in the ocean.

me i like old-fashioned mousetraps if you're gonna have to kill something, they have them for rats, too. poison seems so unnecessarily mean.

Date: 2008-01-31 09:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
That's a really good perspective. I did try to think that what I did to them was probably far less horrible than being killed by a hawk (something I've seen, and it's not like on tv where POOF it's over, no it takes a while with screaming and struggling). Also less horrible than slowly dying. However, for the guys who got stuck together it was much more awful than expected before I got to them.

Perspective is everything...you're right, you have to find hte balance where you care enough to try and do the right (inconvenient) thing, but no so much you're racked with guilt!
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