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I realize people are interested in the idea that eljay "is dying." If so, ... so? Another not really in person experience where we feel connected but are not. I used to frequent "DCFreaks" where a bulletin board held you to public ridicule and review if you were a twit. The twits got sick of being criticized, and trolls invaded the boards who criticized in volume when they lacked substance. So, the unmoderated board died and eljay became a place I "met" people or solidified (and broke off in some cases) relationships started over loud music.

I miss meeting people in that community, and while I meet people in some communities in eljay, it's less frequent and seldom with any decent criticism.

Facebook and twitter are so lacking substance, so incredibly stupid, that my current intention - SUBJECT TO REVIEW and changing my fucking mind - is that I'll just go off line for non-direct communications if the choice is going there vs. going off-line. Alone is no less alone than surrounded by broadcast-only strangers. Hey look, a joke/puppy...

I'm knee deep in the letdown. I thought this was an easy case, but I spent 3 long days prosecuting/defending in this hearing over the weekend. This is to the best of my knowledge one of the easiest cases I have ever had or could ever have, and ... I'm just thinking either I work too fucking hard or there are no easy cases. I know we probably won, but I'm not sure if we won or lost. Neither result would surprise me.

I worked like hell and won or lost I'm let down now. I got so wrapped up in that case that nothing else really matters to me right now and nobody cares about what I just did. Nobody is as wrapped up in that hearing as I am/was. Even I don't care when I really think about it.

Makes no sense. Alcohol and coffee.

Date: 2010-05-26 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparklypoof.livejournal.com
while I am not all up on the lawery case stuffs, I can sympathize with what it feels like to get super-involved in something, to throw your whole being into it, and then have it end. you get so caught up in whatever it is, and then it's done, and there's nothing left (in this case, nothing left but waiting for a win/lose). it does let you down.

I agree that FB and twitter are just people spouting whatever is crossing their minds at the time into the internet. that's why 'm keeping up my lj, which 've had for ...8 or 9 years now. even if no one pokes their head in to read it, it's still fun for me to keep updating, and my favorite part is going back to see what I thought years ago about things then vs. now.

I do think FB and twitter have their places though - especially after this last week working in a joint information center during a mock emergency out in oregon/washington. folks in the JIC were able to send out information about the mock emergency to the public (well, the simulated public) quickly and get immediate feedback from people who were concerned about what was happening at the depot (a mock horrible accident involving ton containers of chemical agent and a fire and... yeah). I think as a tool in emergencies, twitter and FB have high potential to help emergency managers respond to and gather information beyond their current methods.

but most of the time, these tools are used for mundane, inane purposes.

Date: 2010-05-26 09:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
I can see the utility, but I'm not sure I'd want to have to rely on a private commercial service for emergencies.

Thanks for the long thought out response. How very not-facebook of you!

I'm still trying to steal your time soon btw :)

Date: 2010-05-26 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparklypoof.livejournal.com
'm actually free tomorrow night, and monday. :D

Date: 2010-05-27 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Gonna be in b'more for the long weekend, starting early - sorry, but ... well soonish!

Date: 2010-05-26 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likethewatch.livejournal.com
Ppl who say LJ is dying are related to/actually are the ppl who say FB is dying. Lots of times they say it on the forum that is supposedly dying.
Either you get enough out of a forum/medium that you keep putting yourself into that space, or you don't. Same for discos as it is for BBSes and so on. Kids today act like they invented socializing online, but we've been doing it for a generation now. What my rotary dial-recollecting generation (and I suspect yours) need to do is to stop treating everything that happens on a screen as something not-real. Conversations are real, even when they suffer from being in text, with time lag, and every other pain we suffer as our imaginations race beyond the speed of Al Gore's fabulous machine.
I journal, and have been doing it here for more than ten years. Before this, I had a brief online journal on a website on GeoCities. Before that, spiral-bound notebooks. FB is not a journal. LJ is a journal you let your friends see. FB is like your locker or something. Maybe there's no analogy, but kids still use it to talk to each other, a little. So it's not dead yet. Maybe on its MySpace way out. But I really do miss GeoCities. It's impossible to find good web hosting any more. The old personal forums of the 90s are gone.

Date: 2010-05-26 09:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
I think I have to think of it as not real because I tend to lose emotional touch with non-on-line friends, and then encounter them in person and BLAMMO find out that we're just as close as ever.

I miss the boards - like gymrats here. It's fantastic to be called on you own personal bs. I do better when, though it hurts at first or at the time, I'm held up to a bullshit meter :)

Funny about those people - I didn't realize but it does make sense.
"This party sucks!"

Date: 2010-05-26 02:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grymnir.livejournal.com
that "BLAMMO" is fairly typical for me as well.
I don't see people as often, especially people like [livejournal.com profile] djpsyche and others from ten or more years ago who have moved a distance, so LJ allows those friendships to remain current IF not as intense as they may have been when we were cogeolocated.

Date: 2010-05-26 11:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] djpsyche.livejournal.com
No no no, please don't leave LJ. I for one am highly unlikely to get to interact with you in person. :(

Date: 2010-05-27 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Bullshit - I'm totally crashing your flat some day!

Date: 2010-05-26 11:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madame-venus.livejournal.com
I'd rather read your posts than a chapter from a Grisham novel.
Just saying :)

Date: 2010-05-27 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Oh now THERE is a backhanded compliment ;P

Date: 2010-05-29 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] panthergirl.livejournal.com
Cases for you are where you expend your creativity. They wind you up and suck you dry and you aren't done until they are done. Same way I am with one of my "art pieces" dress projects. I once only left the basement to buy more ribbon in a four day weekend. It happens, and it's fun to read.

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