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Aug. 12th, 2009 12:44 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Another great analysis of the fake controversy regarding the health care town hall meetings with fake / orchestrated protesters:
http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/12/early-morning-swim-rachel-exposes-health-care-lobbyist-ties-to-town-hall-protests/
They do a good job of noting that the anti-health care people have offered NO PLANS OF THEIR OWN. The news is screwing up horribly by calling this a controversy - it's not, there are no opposing views. They right-wing only wants to disrupt dialog from happening at all! It's not a disagreement - it's just counter for the sake of being against something.
For those not patient - they break down who is putting out the fake grass-roots instructions to break up the meetings, who the organization is, and who they are linked with. Big one - Dick Armey's lobbying firm (they also break down how this "grass roots" group's efforts have exactly timed several companies' paying for lobbying services)
http://firedoglake.com/2009/08/12/early-morning-swim-rachel-exposes-health-care-lobbyist-ties-to-town-hall-protests/
They do a good job of noting that the anti-health care people have offered NO PLANS OF THEIR OWN. The news is screwing up horribly by calling this a controversy - it's not, there are no opposing views. They right-wing only wants to disrupt dialog from happening at all! It's not a disagreement - it's just counter for the sake of being against something.
For those not patient - they break down who is putting out the fake grass-roots instructions to break up the meetings, who the organization is, and who they are linked with. Big one - Dick Armey's lobbying firm (they also break down how this "grass roots" group's efforts have exactly timed several companies' paying for lobbying services)
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Date: 2009-08-12 06:49 pm (UTC)Man: An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
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Date: 2009-08-12 06:51 pm (UTC)