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Pr0n WARNING! You might be in it!
Wow, turns out if you use photobucket there is a method of pulling your "private" photos and videos. TONS of private fleshy pictures, videos, videos, videos, videos only shown to trusted friends, videos to your lover, videos only seen by yourself, videos in which you farted at the end so you didn't even send it, videos videos videos --- are all over the internet and you may not even know. So, even if you can trust the person you sent it to or you didn't, but trust yourself, you cannot trust the website to keep your private videos private.

Date: 2008-09-03 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] samaritan1975.livejournal.com
Oh, no worries. I'm smart enough to leave the Bucket O' Love pics right out there in public.

Date: 2008-09-03 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
"I'll be in my bunk..."

Date: 2008-09-03 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] samaritan1975.livejournal.com
Firefly/Serenity references never get old, do they? ;)

Date: 2008-09-03 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Not that one, no!

Date: 2008-09-03 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peregrin8.livejournal.com
Heavens. The world might discover that I have skin.

Date: 2008-09-03 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Well, while some of my friends are not shy - I think if my teenage girlfriend (when I too was a teenager) had made a private video of what she did when she thought about me alone at night, and posted that, only to find that the entire school had watched it ... would suck. Many of my friends who aren't shy might not want the video of their personal or marital relations that they made solely for themselves were being viewed by shack-dwellers in Montana. Color me bashful?

Date: 2008-09-03 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] novaya-zemlya.livejournal.com
I'll be in my shack....er, bunk.

Date: 2008-09-03 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peregrin8.livejournal.com
Nah, i'm just overly cynical. I realize that there are still people who put things on the internet and imagine them to be private.

Date: 2008-09-03 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Your comment seemed to imply that the content of the videos was nothing to be ashamed of - which is an argument, but one I don't think wins. Here, I totally understand these people putting on stuff thinking ONLY THEY could see it. While it is dumb to trust their friends with their nudity etc., you would typically expect something on the internet only you access to be safe.

Date: 2008-09-03 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joanarkham.livejournal.com
Nope, you shouldn't. Have you ever read (and understood) every word of a site's TOS? (Well, okay maybe you can understand it, being a law guy and all.) And what if the site gets sold, and sold, and sold again? Not to mention what if they get hacked, or someone leaves a back door for themselves?

Back in my computer security days, we told people that the Internet is as private as a postcard. Chances are no one will see it, but you never really know...

Date: 2008-09-03 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peregrin8.livejournal.com
"private as a postcard" - that's perfect.

I could go on like this for days...

Date: 2008-09-03 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
leaves a back door for themselves

Well yes, that would be the video I was thining of...

Good postcard anal-ogy. People think of it like a phone call, where only the beginning and end of the call are aware...and yet those are not only in packet form but also fap...tappable.

Date: 2008-09-03 04:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peregrin8.livejournal.com
My comment was overly flippant, and was intended to refer only to my own "private" online content, which I tend to assume is locked well enough to keep casual surfers away but is not actually safe from all hackitudery. And which I am just not that bothered about anyway; the photoshoot with the shaved llama is safe in my hard drive.

If it's dumb to trust friends with your secrets, I think it's just as dumb to trust anonymous strangers at an ISP or content site with something you'd be mortified if other people saw.

Date: 2008-09-03 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
(insert big-eyed 'do-want' picture here in response to shaved llama photo shoot...)

Reasonable expectation of privacy is kinda fun. The law continues to evolve, though this adminstration has stripped it all away to keep us safe.

Date: 2008-09-03 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peregrin8.livejournal.com
(you wouldn't want to see it; it's a drama llama)

It's not really about the law, in this case; it's about the technology evolving. People don't understand the web, so they make assumptions that are not warranted. And the law, even under a better gummint, would have to do a lot of work to keep up - it has trouble even defining the internetz.

Date: 2008-09-03 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] empressmiaka.livejournal.com
Ooh thanks for the warning.

Date: 2008-09-03 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Remind me to warn you AFTER I download the full set...

Date: 2008-09-03 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] empressmiaka.livejournal.com
They were not of me. lol ;)

Date: 2008-09-03 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kelowna.livejournal.com
A) Photobucket sucks.

B) Anything that goes on the Internet STAYS on the Internet. Those that presume there is privacy out there are naive. There isn't. Its just a level of probability to something happening.

Bleat.

Okay, but what about

Date: 2008-09-03 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acesifda.livejournal.com
First, how are these pictures and videos getting hacked and disseminated in the first place? Get a better password, or don't upload them onto the internet if that scares you.

Now, what about those of us who still want to make a little private collection of keepsakes and memoirs, so we can still reminisce all nostalgic-like when we're old or horny or sad...?

Any advice on convincing arguments or stepping up security protocols?

Thanks, Internets!

Re: Okay, but what about

Date: 2008-09-03 05:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
It's a password-free hack, or so I hear.

Security levels - 1) don't have them, 2) destroy them, 3) keep them only on physically secure resources?

Re: Okay, but what about

Date: 2008-09-03 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acesifda.livejournal.com
So, all you are really saying in this post is that Photobucket nudes are insecure... ;)

Re: Okay, but what about

Date: 2008-09-03 05:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-dasboot.livejournal.com
It usually doesn't have anything to do with personal passwords. Myspace was hacked a few months ago and every single picture, private or otherwise, was grabbed. That was a breach and pull of their database though, not through personal accounts. Same thing with account breaches though; it is entirely the fault of their crappy login procedure, not the complexity of passwords.

Photobucket has even worse security and you can pull anything from any account just by playing with URLs and educated guesses on naming conventions. It's absurd.

If you absolutely don't want it seen, don't put it online. If you'd rather not have it seen, don't worry about it. It probably won't be, and even if it is, it's a drop in the planet sized ocean of material out there.

Re: Okay, but what about

Date: 2008-09-03 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peregrin8.livejournal.com
Now, what about those of us who still want to make a little private collection of keepsakes and memoirs, so we can still reminisce all nostalgic-like when we're old or horny or sad...?

Burn a CD.

Re: Okay, but what about

Date: 2008-09-03 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acesifda.livejournal.com
Yea, exactly. Unless I wanted more people to see it, I would probably NOT put it on the Internet, in any capacity.

Got that, but

Date: 2008-09-03 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acesifda.livejournal.com
you know, despite the crappy security and high risk of sensitive home footage accidentally finding it's way onto Kazaa or somesuch-
which most of us would probably not want to happen-
I have to wonder, is it just me, or does anyone else find the simple prospect of taping some buck-naked nature-time completely normal?
(for lack of a better word)
"apropos" and grand!

I wouldn't recommend the practice to just anyone, of course.
"Trailer Park Trannies" for instance, should never be seen by anyone.

Baffled

Date: 2008-09-03 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elvenfrost.livejournal.com
It baffles the mind to think that people think anything on the net can't be somehow ganked by others no matter how secure the sites security is supposedly. It's the internet people! I think people get stuck thinking in the realm of the physical where you can have for example a safe with a combination. Passwords and firewalls do not equal safety deposit box, lock and key or any other such thing. The postcard anology is really right on! Monster had thousands of peoples information hacked a couple years ago. I was one of those to receive the apology letter from Monster.

Date: 2008-09-03 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] predigested.livejournal.com
I await your instructions on how to get at all of these private videos. This post is not complete without a tutorial.

Date: 2008-09-04 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trhodes.livejournal.com
SQL injection attacks are a norm these days with so many websites going "dynamic" with PHP or ASP as their primary languages and "Microsoft SQL Server" or Oracle or MySQL or ... being the database backend. Crafting specific URLs to access assumed private data (usernames, passwords, images, etc) is very possible when developers aren't anticipating what people would try.

Now, I heard about this attack a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, I can't remember if it was an injection attack or just a URL change. But I'm leaning toward the latter.

My answer to all the people who've had "private" nude or sexually based images/videos stolen ... don't make them. The second you make something like that is the second someone could gain access. Whether you accidentally throw it out, leave it out and a room mate/friend looks at it, put it on the Internet, whatever. The best way to hide something like that is not have it exist. ;)

Date: 2008-09-04 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
I've never been naked - not even in the shower!
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