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[vicarz]

People need to stop attacking things or all faith will be lost then where will we be? In this article, the so-called "scientists" said that the bigfoot remains that were found, by all accounts amongst and around actual live specimens of bigfoots, were not real bigfoots according to DNA.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080815/ts_nm/bigfoot_dc_2
Now, we all saw the pictures and what do a bunch of scientists know if they weren't really there? They said the stuff was people and possum - well does it look like a possum to you? That was a whole ape man in that freezer. What is the scientist government hiding exactly? That's awfully big for a cat-sized possum, ya think? How stupid do they think we are? If I were those guys who found it, and did I mention by a bunch of them that were alive but let these guys carry off the body of their dead ape-man relative, I would hide it too since the government is just trying to argue and shoot it all down like it isn't there. Big foot is been around too long to not be, duh? See they just want to chop this all down and have the whole world fit in their giant system of places for stuff and everything. We won't all just do what they say and shut down our brains if we believe in stuff that shows their science is wrong and the system is just a joke and anyone with any real brains knows better than like in a school or news broadcast on CNNFOXPBS Inc. It's all just one giant corporate welfare government cheese with only one big rat in a cage. Man I wish I could just drop out and go join our real bigfoot brothers in the hills where the government won't never go and invest their DNA false acquittal government systems with fingerprint entries and underground disease research facilities raccoon city silent hill. They say you can't prove god either but he exists and is white. If there wasn't a god and a bigfoot why would Marilyn Manson do covers of AC/DC songs?

Speaking of Bulgaria, http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080815/ts_nm/bulgaria_prince_dc_2 I wonder if he was listening to Satanic Hands Radio Bulgaria http://sanatavopilif.com/ ???

See news is full of stupid stuff disappoint and sad stuff - no wonder people don't care about it you know?

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[cweaselle.livejournal.com]

I care about the news, but I'm tired of crying over people's stupidity. It's sad when I can tell what's going on & "normal" people can't. There is a big ape like creature in almost every native culture just like there is a God in every culture. The thing that crack me up is that all religions have close to the same story on the major flood story & now they are finding that it is true.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_blackjack_/]

Well, no, really, the flood myth is only found in a few Mediterranean and Mesopotamian cultures which had significant contact with one another, and there isn't a shred of geological evidence to support the occurrence of a worldwide--or even region-wide--flood. Flood mythology derives primarily from the Mesopotamian reliance on the Tigris and Euphrates flood-plains for sustenance. The "conquest" of the "waters" is a metaphor for the emergence of agriculture, nothing more.

[cweaselle.livejournal.com]

Actually there is a scientific study going on now that there almost definitely was a flood, but it didn't take the whole world. They are also checking into where the people that fled went. That will make a huge difference and just because there was a flood doesn't prove any specific religion, but it does prove that science changes beliefs as time goes on. There is all sorts of things that scientists wouldn't have thought possible 100 years ago that we don't even think about now.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_blackjack_/]

Actually there is a scientific study going on now that there almost definitely was a flood, but it didn't take the whole world.

Well, no, really, there just isn't, at least not during human memory. I'm sorry, but this is something I teach. The origins of Near Eastern flood mythology are pretty well understood. There were certainly floods, just as there are now, but nothing on the catastrophic level you see in the myths.

And while science certainly does change its positions, it only does so in the face of new evidence.

[cweaselle.livejournal.com]

I didn't say that there is a flood that took over the whole world. I have a friend that is part of the scientist doing the research so it is happening. I also know that the world back then was much smaller then. Not in geographical ways, but in human thought.

There have been times when science was wrong & they didn't want to admit that the science was wrong. Encephilitis is one. I know all about that so science isn't always something to trust.

[vicar.livejournal.com]

Michelle, this fellow is actually a religious scholar who doesn't speak on an issue without being aware of a wide range of research on it, and the stuff you are talking about is...well bunk. I know you mean well, but the evidence is world-wide and uncontroverted by real science. I'm sure the guy you know in a small town in Florida is not engaged in real earth-shattering (if you'll forgive the pun) scientific research.

[cweaselle.livejournal.com]

When did England become part of Florida? I guess I couldn't be anywhere near right if London is now a city in Florida. What I was saying is that there was a flood & people didn't have enough communication to know that their village wasn't the whole world.

[bluvampr.livejournal.com]

and actually there is research proving that some sea (dammit this was anthropology class in college about 12 years ago) had a barrier overflow that did in fact flood an entire region around there.

i promise i will research this tomorrow and come back with actual facts.

so there :P

[vicar.livejournal.com]

Reality and my opinions are strange, and infrequent, bedfellows?

[http://users.livejournal.com/_blackjack_/]

It is possible that the Black Sea overflowed within the most remote edges of human memory, but probably took place over a period of generations, not as a single cataclysmic event. It wouldn't have been a worldwide flood so much as, "gee, wasn't the shore a little farther away when I was a kid?" And the area around the Black Sea isn't one of the primary sources of flood mythology anyway.

Even if a cataclysmic flood occurred in some region, the resemblance between various Near Easter deluge narratives is far better explained by shared influences and even direct literary dependence than by the memory of some long-past geological event. There is nothing surprising about Jews living in exile in Babylon writing a flood story which bears an uncanny resemblance to the one the Babylonians were telling at the time. The Sumerian, Babylonian and Hebrew flood myths share specific narrative features: a god or gods seeks to wipe out humanity by a flood, a righteous man is forewarned and survives, etc. That would not happen if the myths resulted from the memory of an historical event from the dawn of human civilization, unless one wishes to argue for the historicity of Noah/Atrahasis/Utanapishtim, which is comparable for arguing for the historicity of Adam and Eve.

[chelonologist.livejournal.com]

I would like to argue for the historicity of Noah. He came cruising by when I lived with Bigfoot in the tree. Some kind of scuffle broke out and the unicorns fell overboard. Fortunately their fall was broken by Elvis and they were able to ride him to safety like a rubber dingy.

[fenriss.livejournal.com]

I think it's possible that not everyone understood the spirit in which you intended this post.

[chelonologist.livejournal.com]

I think you'll find that it is a scientifically proven fact that everyone has, in fact, understood the spirit in which this post was intended. I'm a scientist, so really, I should know.

[chelonologist.livejournal.com]

Also, I married bigfoot. It was during government research I was doing on a remote island which was unexpectedly submerged during a flood of biblical proportions, and bigfoot happened to live in a tree.

[fenriss.livejournal.com]

Oh, man! I wish to Crom I could show up on your doorstep right now with some booze and a pint of ice cream.

[vicar.livejournal.com]

When is that ever a bad idea or poorly received? I mean, really?

[chelonologist.livejournal.com]

That would be grand. Maybe when we live together on that commune.
There'll be ice cream on the commune, right? Otherwise I may have to rethink my plans to join you...
And I don't want soy ice cream, or soil flavour ice cream, or soylent green ice cream, or any other hippie crap or things starting with the sound 'soy', it's gotta be chocolate or cookie dough. Or both. I am prepared to take on goat milking detail to this end, but someone else is running on the treadmill to provide the juice for the freezing apparatus.

[fenriss.livejournal.com]

Oh, totally. Real ice cream! Sheep and goats are a sure thing, and maybe a couple of little Dexter cows (http://www.dex-info.net/images/Red.jpg). cjpetherick and I have plans. We already know how we'll keep the buildings air conditioned in the summer (based on ancient roman underground duct plans) so I'm sure we can manage to freeze things, too.

Maybe we're crazy survivalist types, but we're the leftist kind so it's ok. Honest.

[chelonologist.livejournal.com]

Well okay then, it's all back on ;)

Like the cow, travel sized for your convenience.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_blackjack_/]

Just don't put cookie-dough ice cream on cookies, because that's like boiling the cookie in the milk of its mother. (This came up in conversation last night, you see...)

[chelonologist.livejournal.com]

Cookie dough isn't the milk of the cookie's mother. It's the cookie's aborted sibling. There are no dietry laws against that in any religion that I'm aware of.

[vicar.livejournal.com]

I am disturblingly pleased by this turn of conversation!