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WOW. From [profile] meepzorp The biggest douche voice mail in history. At work bored? If you're not blocked it's safe for work and hi stare ih kal.

Help me out here, what exactly is a douche? I mean I have a picture, and if I call someone a douche there is generally agreement on the use of the term, but what is one really?
Is it a BMW driver with flip flops, sunglasses (spendy ones), and a white shirt?
Is it a guy with an open button down over a t-shirt drinking in Clarendon fake Irish pubs?
Is it sunglasses at night?
Is it a baseball-cap guy yelling in the street drunk?
Is it that guy trying to pick girls up with "the method?"

What exactly is a douchebag? It seems like a category of yuppie.

Date: 2008-07-25 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] samaritan1975.livejournal.com
Wait. Is this Dmitri? I cracked up at that voicemail.

Date: 2008-07-25 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Yeppers - he's a doozy. What a catch!

Date: 2008-07-25 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minniethemoocha.livejournal.com
A delusional, narcissistic tool. He thinks he's the classiest, most desirable guy on earth, when in truth the opposite is true, mainly *because of* how conceited he is. Perhaps he is wealthy, hygienic, fit, and drives a nice vehicle, but women with any brains or taste won't give him the time of day because he is so clearly a jerk who thinks his existence does the world a favor.

BTW, here is Dmitri's website: http://www.dimitrithelover.com/

I really, really want a shirt that says Femi-Nazi now.

Date: 2008-07-25 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ego-likeness.livejournal.com
Yours is a much better, and more specific, definition than mine. I was having trouble really nailing down some of those defining elements.

Date: 2008-07-25 02:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Hmm...ok now I'm just thinking fake-viral scam to sell stuff? If his message is real - to me it doesn't reek of delusion, more of trying to use fake confidence to lure low self-esteem twits into bed.

Date: 2008-07-25 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-dasboot.livejournal.com
After a while of emulating Frank T.J. Mackey, I think one would really come to start believing it.

Date: 2008-07-25 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ego-likeness.livejournal.com
Douchebags occur in every set, not just within yuppiedom.

It's just a certain something...kind of an intangible, yet inherent, quality in a person. When you think about it, it's sort of a special description because a douche is not necessarily a cocksucker or even an asshole (although those types can also be douchebags). It's not a direct action, and not just the way someone looks, but more about the attitude and the way said douche carries himself.

So difficult to describe, but so easy to spot.

There's a website, something like hotchickswithdouchebags.com
Most of the pictures are of the jock/ fratboy or yo-boy variety of douche, but it's funny nonetheless.

Just my .02

xoxo
D

Date: 2008-07-25 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] samaritan1975.livejournal.com
So, the people who, after renting a DVD, leave little sticky notes in the case about the 'big reveal'.... in what category do they fall?

Date: 2008-07-25 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ego-likeness.livejournal.com
Cocksucker, for sure. That's a pretty heinous offense.

Date: 2008-07-25 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Is that revealing the surprise / spoiler, or the time index where someone takes off their shirt?

Date: 2008-07-25 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
BRILLIANT website, wow. So much ... and their mates fit it too.

Bodies really aren't everything...who knew...

Date: 2008-07-25 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peregrin8.livejournal.com
I think of douchebag as a stronger term than just a subset of yuppie. It takes some active upsetting of the pH balance to be a true douchebag. We're talking cold vinegar-water chills.

That phone message is awesomely douchebaggy. The guy is like president of Massengill.

Date: 2008-07-25 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] minniethemoocha.livejournal.com
There's also a hipster equivalent -- the same, basically, but wears more American Apparel.

Date: 2008-07-25 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-dasboot.livejournal.com
- Possibly but not inherently
- Probably but not inherently
- Yes
- Yes
- Yes

Date: 2008-07-25 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pastor-saturn.livejournal.com
Is it a BMW driver with flip flops, sunglasses (spendy ones), and a white shirt?
Is it a guy with an open button down over a t-shirt drinking in Clarendon fake Irish pubs?
Is it sunglasses at night?
Is it a baseball-cap guy yelling in the street drunk?
Is it that guy trying to pick girls up with "the method?"


Possibly, possibly, yes, yes, yes.

Remember that Senator (?) who said he couldn't define porn, just knew it when he saw it? Same with douchebaggery. Doucheness. Douche-itude. Whatever. I like "douche-itude."
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Master?

Date: 2008-07-25 03:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Wow - thank you for the reference! I can't believe his lectures are only $40. Next time I visit Kel, I'm going to have to schedule a little interlude...
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Re: Master?

Date: 2008-07-25 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Or she'd finally meet the dominant man of her dreams - you never know. I don't see him being phased, to be honest. You weigh too heavily on your experience and friends - look from the "outside" ;P
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Re: Master?

Date: 2008-07-25 04:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
I...I thought that kids in the hall sketch was just a joke...but damn, they're canadians. They weren't making comedy, they were just recreating things us USians couldn't know actually existed. It's like they were pretending to be aliens and we laughed, but they were really aliens...

Date: 2008-07-25 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pastor-saturn.livejournal.com
"Self-professed seduction guru" = really astonishingly horrible douche. The biggest douche to ever douche a douche. Megadouche. Douchezilla.
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Date: 2008-07-25 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
What To Do If A Girl Has A Boyfriend is worth watching...

Date: 2008-07-25 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pastor-saturn.livejournal.com
Thundercat Seduction Lair. Ohhh mah gooooodddd...I'm still getting used to knowing I live in a world that has "seduction communities" in it at all.

And I was so happy, so naive...just a few short hours ago...
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Date: 2008-07-25 04:51 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-07-25 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] transentient.livejournal.com
A douchebag is a basically an ironic asshole. They know they are losers, but they believe that the methods they imploy to prevent themselves from facing this fact also convince others that they are not losers.

So it isn't enough to have a BMW to prove to other people that you are better than them. It must be a convertible BMW, with the largest chrome wheels that your cousin's auto accessory store has in stock. And the white shirt must be a wife-beater, so that the little people who you use the shoulder to pass can see how large your biceps are. Because certainly, they will come to the conclusion that you are a king among men, or at the very least that your dad actually loved you, even though he stopped talking to you after you repeated third grade the second time.

Date: 2008-07-25 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feistydiva.livejournal.com
I think Dmitri is related to my ex.

Date: 2008-07-25 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
I think I'll go ahead and start trying this - along with the numbers game (hit on enough people and the low % that are fucked up enough to say yes will turn out to be a large integer). Oh wait. No I won't.

Date: 2008-07-25 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feistydiva.livejournal.com
You better not!

You are definitely not douchebag material.

Date: 2008-07-25 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
I can pass for psycho though! < twitch >

Date: 2008-07-25 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] freja999.livejournal.com
I hate being called elegant because of this guy. Also, my friends and I have read all about him on his website and the articles about the lawsuit etc., and the term "douchey" is now used quite often in our practical vocab. "Douchey"

Date: 2008-07-26 06:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kelowna.livejournal.com
Douchebag is simply the insult du jour.

--k
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