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Damnit, fucking damn. I got my last grade - in employment law. Understand I do this for a fucking living, right? I only got a B+. I knew it was a risk taking this professor again after only getting a B in prof resp. I seem to be hitting a random with him, or he sees through my wall of information to my true ignorance underneath and scores me accordingly. Nice guy, but I am baffled by the grade. My final gpa will only be 3.2851 or 3.29. That will most likely not be with honors as the GPAs go up in the spring and the lowest score with honors last term was 3.30. Not much I can do about it now.

Date: 2007-06-06 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blindtillnow.livejournal.com
i disagree completely with regard to the "whole point of school." school does NOT teach or train you how to be a lawyer. school is an evil pox-ridden whore one must couple with to get a degree. the workplace is where most real learning occurs. (well, at least for me anyhow.)

that said, perhaps i'm the very odd man out in that i learn much better by doing and reading on my own than through class work or dealing with professors. *shrug*

but what you've described above is unfair, unnecessary, and would outrage me if it happened to me or my child. in a classroom setting, particularly a law school classroom setting, where there exists intense competition for grades and ranking any practice that blatantly favors or penalizes some students over others is a wretched practice.

sorry if it feels like i'm taking my frustration with the current, US, law school teaching paradigm out on you. ;)

-S

Date: 2007-06-06 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
You should know that Rikk is both a student and a professor (mostly) - but not a law geek.

Date: 2007-06-06 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blindtillnow.livejournal.com
yeah, i kind of figured out that maybe i was being a hars.

sorry rik!

i just really hated law school....

-S

(and didn't you enjoy my evil, pox riden whore analogy?)

Date: 2007-06-06 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Oh yes - there are no prophylactics thick enough to protect you from the social contagions present in a USian law school.

Date: 2007-06-06 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grymnir.livejournal.com
I think it worked. But I will take what you saying and keep it in mind. I, personally, am in an interdisciplinary program for my PhD. I have fellow students who are only MA, other who are precocious (little fucktards) undergraduates, and even PhD students from very different disciplines.

In one instance--the topic we were working was in an American history class, but dealt quite bit with early modern Europe. Point is--my MA was European history; prof had to push me in ways she couldn't push the others b/c they didn't have the background. to not push me would have wasted my time, I think, and would not have taught me anything.

Law school - and even the Ivys when people are fighting for that .0025 difference? I understand your anger and vitriol.

Date: 2007-06-06 06:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] grymnir.livejournal.com
BTW - answered other bits below but:
you reference your child. Ok, assume a public school. I went to Fairfax County high schools--my writing ability was solid when I entered college, but there were students (not just athletes) who were barely literate.

Should the professor expect the same things from each students, especially when it is as arbitrary as "writing style, argument, and analysis"? I'd argue "no" - though I do see the danger of grading students on different scales. So, unfair perhaps, but unnecessary? I'm not sure I agree--there is too much entitlement and pure slacking (let me paste this from wikipedia right here..) in undergraduate studies in many programs now. It is disheartening.

Date: 2007-06-06 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pastor-saturn.livejournal.com
Should the professor expect the same things from each students, especially when it is as arbitrary as "writing style, argument, and analysis"? I'd argue "no" - though I do see the danger of grading students on different scales. So, unfair perhaps, but unnecessary? I'm not sure I agree--there is too much entitlement and pure slacking

But doesn't some of that entitlement and slacking stem from a practice of grading students on different scales? I mean, if I "don't have the background" to take a grad-level American History course, I shouldn't be taking the course at all until I can understand and keep up, IMO. I thought that was WHY they have grades: to tell whether you're ready to advance.

If the prof says of me, "Well, Susan's an Econ major so she doesn't have to know much about history; I'll just give her a bye," that insults my intelligence and my ability to master (or at least excel at) something outside my field. It really cheapens the grades you get, whether A's or D's, if you're not one of the students deigned worth challenging.

I don't care if it's common, it's not okay. However, I am oversensitive about these things. Don't mind me. :)

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