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[vicarz]

Some beautiful music is made with or for religion, and I find that odd. I like some of the music, but worry about what I support if I purchase or openly enjoy it. I love listening to old TKK as they take samples from xtian hate speeches (ok, movie quotes) and feeling like it's so funny and blasphemous and cute to be partying to samples of people calling to wipe us out. So I'm listening to muslim prayer chants put to jazz music by an angry african american muslim convert, and thinking that instead of worrying about whether I should be disturbed by the message I don't understand...when I decide my answer is to TKK the music. This should be what I play to gay male leather sex - he's chanting "guide my path mohammed the prophet to all holy god" while I'm chanting "milky milky cocoa puffs" to the same beat. Turn each Bush speech into an industrial anthem. Listen to conservative religious leaders while you commit local felonies. That I can enjoy.

This is my favorite icon for the very subtle motion.

My temporary boss has (secretly for now) become my actual boss. This is...odd. He is utterly unqualified for the position he holds. I kinda like the guy, despite his hyper-xtian hyper-black-male (it's a special flavor) anti-gay (I kid you not, he actually has said "It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve") issues. He likes and respects me and my work (wonder if he'd still approve if he knew I liked milky milky cocoa puffs...with boys) but he's not the type to buck his superiors for anyone. So he'll carry out every whim of the bosses above, and the word on the street is I'm not favored by them. On the other hand, we did a conversational review of the last 4 years of management promotions, and realized everyone that was in the good graces of management had either complained formally, or made coffee. Having and running a coffee maker near your boss is the quickest route to the top of USDA?

New rules:
If you "have a philosophy," you're an asshole.
But, if your philosophy rhymes, you're an idiot.

I listen to house and jazz, but whenever someone raps or breaks out a xylophone I switch stations.

Comments

[transentient.livejournal.com]

So I took this world music class the other year, and the instructor was telling me that there is big controversy over including muslim prayer chants in it. It isn't actually that the muslims mind their prayer chants being listened to or studied academically by infidels, it is that they are offended that infidels think the prayer chants are music. Though they sound musical, they are apparently not music.

[vicar.livejournal.com]

I must say this particular chant is done with music, and sounds an awful lot like noises you make while fucking (complete with climax and round 2).

[grymnir.livejournal.com]

"milky milky cocoa puffs" ... visual...way...too...visual.
Unless you didn't mean it that way.
...
way...too...visual...
As for the coffee maker--seriously, I have seen management that meade decisions AGAINST people for having too much coffee--they figured it was too much time away from the desk. I've also seen management that distrusted those who didn't drink enough coffee, or who drank tea, because they felt they were not "pushing enough." Yes, I know teas often have more stim. but that is the level of ignorance.

Good luck. It is the gub-mint after all.

[vicar.livejournal.com]

It's a line someone quoted from a r&b song - can't say I know which one, but as you can imagine, the horrific image makes the line stick. This...is a song?

[komissarsteve.livejournal.com]

You tend to make some rather ignorant generalizations about the two billion Christians worldwide.

The rest of us aren't anything like the couple million U.S. racists, who would still be racist gay-haters if they were atheists.

[vicar.livejournal.com]

Oddly you've over-generalized from my material here to something I didn't say - but I'd stand by it if I had. What did I say about 2 bil xtians worldwide?

[komissarsteve.livejournal.com]

"I like some [Christian] music, but worry about what I support if I purchase or openly enjoy it."

Now, come on...what implication is one supposed to take from a line like this? Especially when you follow it up with a line about "Christian" hate speeches. (I've got news for you - Fred Phelps isn't a Christian, no matter what he says)

What this says to me is, "Listening to music by Christians is supporting intolerance, because Christianity is, by nature, intolerant and not open-minded."

[vicar.livejournal.com]

Well, yes. Especially xtian music. I would stand by that based on everything I encounter. So if that's the generalization, I'm pretty comfortable with that as such. It's hard for an expansionalist regieme to be tolerant, no?

[komissarsteve.livejournal.com]

"Expansionist regime" is a mislabeling of what Christianity's purpose is, and it is inherently a tolerant belief system: Paul states in Galatians that, because of Christ's sacrifice, all races and genders are equal before God.

As for whether or not it's tolerant, I think Martin Luther King Jr. would disagree strongly with your implication that it isn't.

As for what you've encountered, be humble. You should know full well that what you have encountered of Christianity in the U.S. is a very small, peculiar microcosm that says a lot more about the purportedly Christian individuals you have met, than it does about Christianity in general.

[komissarsteve.livejournal.com]

I mean, after all, you don't see me judging atheists because Stalin killed my great-grandparents, do you?

[vicar.livejournal.com]

It would be rational to do so, I suppose. And of course I judge the bazillions of xtians based on the large numbers I hear from. I'm supposed to know that there is some unheard of huge majority that is wonderful and kind, while all the assholes I hear about on the news are just the minority? I mean that would be nice, but it seems a bit unusual that I only hear from the creeps?

[komissarsteve.livejournal.com]

It's hardly unusual. The press always goes for the shrillest of any group.