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I really need your input on this Pride 2007 issue!
I have an idea that I think is abfab, but want to poll the peeps on my LJ list about their reaction / enthusiasm.

Once again I have just missed pride - in a particularly important year as gays are used to fund the right-wing as all their pundits are caught in various nefarious acts with taxpayer dollars blah blah. I always miss pride.

My girl and I were thinking about going, didn't make it, but if we went we totally admitted we'd not hold hands or make out and stuff. We didn't want to be straight looking people in pride. We have mixed-gender bisexual couple shame. As long as I don't touch my girlfriend, I look gay. All gay. And hot, but that's beside the point.

I'm tired of my closet within the gay community. I'm sick of the bi-raging. By gays. So. I have a plan. A kitschy plan.

We get a bunch of bisexuals to march in pride 2007. Our group and slogan?
Embarrassed Mixed-gender Bisexual Stereotypical Out Couples!
EMBSOC? I'm having trouble with the anagram, but the point is there. Any suggestions about terms that we can add to make the anagram more entertaining, like a Savage Love sig, are appreciated. We could march down the avenue with our signs / t-shirts, for which we have plenty of time to produce, and wave to everyone going "Sorry! My bad!"

Seriously, what do you think of this idea? Would you do this? Could we plan and make this a group for the march? I think it would be insanely hilarious, but don't know if others will get the giggle out of this that I would. Please let me know if you think it is hilarious, horrible, or just lame. All input welcome.

Psyche made a good point a while ago about how people get all pissy about mixed-gender bi-couples as though all bis are really straight doing some ... well whatever the accusation is. The statistics just make it a lot more likely that you'll meet a mate-worthy opposite, so what. We're all tired of apologizing for being bi and having the audacity to date the opposite sex. I realized I was going to go to pride and hide my true identity. Fuck that.

As a side note, if I could seriously get people to do this with me, I would also accept straight couples that lie. Seriously, it would be more fun to get a lot of people together. Plus, I think that straight people want to show support, but find the "straight but not narrow" a wussy cop-out that screams "I don't mind fags but please-oh-please don't hit on me! Ew!" Oh crap, I'd be letting more people lie about their status, wouldn't I? Damn. Well it would be ironic, but I'd encourage it anyway.

Maybe we could get "Li-curious" shirts printed up too. For the kinda bi set.

Of course my other idea was to march alone with a sign that said "Gay black republican pride" and have a t-shirt that said on the back "Paid to carry this sign."

Date: 2006-06-10 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dhairya.livejournal.com
Liquorious - the tendency to make out with your own gender after a couple of drinks.

I'm enthustiastic. Very very.

Date: 2006-06-11 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turbogrrl.livejournal.com
dude, i am so there!

shields keeps accusing me of being straight. I'm not straight, dammit! I just haven't met a *single* girl I'd like to get naked with in several years, and I'm not going to get naked and figure out if I like them later. Humbug.

I would totally be in your parade.

Date: 2006-06-11 12:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turbogrrl.livejournal.com
"am i gay? am i straight?! and then I realized... I'm just slutty. Slut Pride! Where's MY parade?"

Date: 2006-06-11 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
I love Cho! Um, shields - what's that?

Awesome...this could be fun!
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Date: 2006-06-11 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fenriss.livejournal.com
Not that you are soliciting opinions, but IMO, considering yourself bi makes you bi. I think anybody who needs to examine your queer cred to decide if you're "worthy" of the title is neurotic. Why should we reject the camaraderie of anyone who's willing to deal with the social stigma of standing with us? We're in no position to turn down support.

Date: 2006-06-12 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
I want to have fun with and poke fun at the naysayers!

Date: 2006-06-11 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fenriss.livejournal.com
Spectacular idea! E isn’t normally the marching type, but this is just funny enough, and spot-on enough for our situation, that I think he can be persuaded. Will spread the word to the strangely numerous mixed-gender bi couples I know.

Date: 2006-06-12 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Awesome! We might just have a "movement" here. Let the giggling commence!

Date: 2006-06-11 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deegenerate.livejournal.com
I remember going one year and the Perforations crew marched. Their slogan was something, something "we're bi. We can't make up our minds" It was pretty funny.

Date: 2006-06-11 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
I was with them one year...and I have NO piercings. Um...

Date: 2006-06-11 07:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underfiend.livejournal.com
I would totally march with you. We'd be a posse of three, but still... you didn't miss Pride.

Date: 2006-06-11 09:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] desiringmachine.livejournal.com
i think it is a spectacular fucking idea.

Date: 2006-06-11 12:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coronalrain.livejournal.com
In case I didn't say it last night, this is an awesome idea! I love it!

Date: 2006-06-11 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shesquint.livejournal.com
I think it's a great idea, too, but who am I to judge? I have a better handle on the gay community in Waterloo, IA (thank you, lesbian cousin!) than on the one here.

Can straight couples join the march and wear shirts that say "EMBSOC FRIENDLY" really big, or something? That way, no one has to lie. Or there could be a big sexuality unity march, to show that it's possible for everyone to be cool with everyone else. Hell, my cousins and I could do that on all bi (har!) ourselves, since the three of us represent the three major sexualities.

This would be a lot more coherent if I hadn't woken up less than half an hour ago.

Date: 2006-06-12 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
You totally could. You could wear "straight but not narrow" or even "liquorious." Or you could lie - being in the closet at a gay pride march! More ironic than the lyrics of a high-school not-quite-educated Atlantis!

hmmm....

Date: 2006-06-11 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] citizen-ken.livejournal.com
1) These gender issues are quite complicated.

2) I think your idea is fine, but you need a bettter acronym. Unless you intend to go to war with Eurasia.

3) I have a button maker now, and would be glad to help you make buttons for your movement. I also have a laminator, but I suspect it would be less helpful.

sure!

Date: 2006-06-12 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-means947.livejournal.com
Hm. I'd like a t-shirt that says, "am I gay?" on one side, and "ask my girlfriend" on the other.

There's also a t-shirt that says "I like boys" with the "boys" crossed out. Underneath, "I like girls" with the "girls" crossed out. Underneath, "I like boys" with the "boys" crossed out. Underneath, "I like girls" with the "girls" crossed out.

I want that one, too. I'll march in your parade.

Re: sure!

Date: 2006-06-12 09:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Sweet!

i'll be there too

Date: 2006-06-12 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alumiere.livejournal.com
also, if you want to go to a pride celebration locally, next weekend is baltimore's (which i've always enjoyed more than dc's anyway) and afterwards my favorite club is doing what they call retroshock - which means cheesy 80's and old industrial in a packed, very mixed club - i'm thinking of going up in the afternoon and then going dancing; you guys should think about coming with

Re: i'll be there too

Date: 2006-06-12 09:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
I don't know if I have that much time, but it sounds fun. I have more time than when I was in school-school, but I'm still in summer-school.

Date: 2006-06-12 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atrum-exsilium.livejournal.com
yeah, I know...well its all because the definition of bi, gay and straight are so damned hard to pin down, because they aren't strict, despite what anyone says...I am bi, but as I am now married to a woman and monogamous, I let her say that I am straight...technically true, as I do not plan to be having sex with other men or women again (gods it sounds ominous and scary when I put it that way!). I remember very well though that when I was younger, if someone told me they were bi, or I thought they had had sex or even fantasies about a same sex person, I would automatically lump them in as gay...do it once and you are that for life...nowadays I understand it is a helluvalot more complicated than all that...but then I am sure just because someone is gay doesn't mean they would understand the distinction anymore than a straight person would.

So yeah, I feel you, dog...word (more referring to the crap ass thugs that may have vandalized your friend's car! I had that happen down here too).

I doubt I would get the wife to come along, even if we could be in town then, but I would happily and openly support that (insomuch as I AM openly bi, beyond friends and announcements here, Tribe and Myspace...hehe)
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