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I'm thinking I should attend alchemy more. I don't know - the music I like isn't getting much play, and I remember bailing on alchemy as the crowd grew dumber with the music. Is it better now? If not, what can I do to make it better? I don't mind the mandatory hits, whether I bitch about them or not, but the hour or 2 hours stretches of noise/ebm/synth were just annoying. Still, if I don't patronize AND BITCH then I won't hear anything. There won't be big spaces to dance anywhere in DC soon, and I don't relish trying to hunt for parking in Adams Morgan to hear good music in a smoke-filled place with a 12x12 concrete dance floor. The smoke in Black Cat and DC 9 makes my eyes bleed. I also don't want to hear crappy music, so what do I do?

Why is it summer and I still have no time to work social events into my calendar?

Date: 2005-06-07 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] djkangal.livejournal.com
This just kills me, absolutely SLAYS me, this attitude that has somehow creeped into the collective mindset, that we are all somehow obligated to attend club parties despite them becoming boring, irrelevant, poorly run or what have you. WHY??? Can you think of any other aspect of your life where this altruistic hedonism applies? Why are the patrons suddenly responsible for making club parties suck less than they do?

If you didn't go to Alchemy (or any other party for that matter) anymore, what is the worst that would happen? It would stop happening and you would have nothing to replace it with, right?? That's the worst case scenario. But think about it: HOW WOULD THAT CHANGE YOUR LIFE RIGHT NOW? Not a whole Hell of a lot, and if bad parties go away, they are almost always replaced by new and possible better, but at least NEW parties.

"if I don't patronize and BITCH then I won't hear anything" - that one phrase right there, combined with another phrase - "open bar" - is the only reason that the status quo is maintained. If you give the possibilities a lot of thought, you'll realized that they ONLY way you're going to hear something you like again is to vote with your wallet and encourage out with the old and in with the new. If it won't evolve, it dies off, and I don't see evolution here, instead I see a lot of Ho-Hum feelings and desperation, and that's why I go to movies on weekends. Change is a good thing, and this massive GUILT laid on DC scenesters sucks major ass, and promoters should be ashamed of themselves for encouraging it.

Or, you know, you could just go to a different city on weekends. Then the party is always new to -you-. But trust me, that gets expensive after a while.

Date: 2005-06-07 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
I already tried that and it didn't seem to work. I stopped going to alchemy, and it's still going (if not going strong, still going). There are no other venues with large dance floors that play anything like what I like other than alchemy and chiaroscuro. I stopped going to catacomb because I didn't like the music, and it was replaced with midnight (always hated the space, ick).

The guilt usually seems aimed at people who bitch. It's as though criticism and requests are horrible things.

Where I've liked the music has been in these little places like DC 9 where the old schoolers are spinning stuff. I like the small spaces, but they suck for dancing, heavy smoke, and high temperatures in the summer.

I like to drink and recover, which makes other cities inappropriate as you're too tired to drive safely.

Date: 2005-06-07 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kelowna.livejournal.com
...little places like DC 9...

But then we get to watch the "SLUTS" :D

To follow up tho... I think you are lamenting because you are looking for a social boost to meet new people. Also, why does there need to be an absolute public statement on this subject. Go where you want to go, stay when you want to stay, leave if you feel like leaving. This is not a situation where you are buying a membership then would be obligated to go for several months straight on a weekly basis. If you are curious, attend. If you have fun, come back. If it still bores you - stay the fuck home and quit posting about it on LJ!@#!@#!@

kidding.

sort of.

there are _other_ things to do... if you want to go exploring different, new, venues and options let me know :)

--kelowna

Date: 2005-06-07 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
They were skankariffic!

Well going out is very social a lot of the time, but I can go to places to be social and meet new people in droves, but want to like the music too. Music is important to me, and has always been a big part of my life.

I'm posting for input! I've tried just voting with my dollars, and I guess I don't represent enough dollars because I'm having poor luck. There are some nights I'd like to hit during the week for the type of music, but during the week isn't really good for my schedule.

We do other things, but I like exploring these other things too. I think you were with me for my first trip to DC 9, and I've returned a few times since then. I'm always interested in options, venues, even hiking :)

Date: 2005-06-07 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kelowna.livejournal.com
Well, flat out, your tastes are such that you won't always be pleased for the entire night. I've noticed the different reasons why your evening has gone better or worse. People spend alot of time complaining about the music -- when in all honesty, the music could suck but as long as a cute girl/guy gave them some attention/time/number/kiss... that night ended up being "the best fucking club night ever"!

--kelowna

Date: 2005-06-07 05:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
100% busted on that, but I do still talk about the music. No question night rating is totally person dependent if flirtation is directed from or to me.

Date: 2005-06-07 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greatevil.livejournal.com
are you telling all of us to kiss Vicar? :)

Date: 2005-06-08 05:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] desiringmachine.livejournal.com
i have noticed that i have more fun at clubs since nate moved away and i go by myself and just meet up with random friends. i think this is because instead of going out of convenience/habit, with another person who was also only going out of habit, i actually only go now when i want too. i *expect* to have fun when i go now, because oftentimes it's been awhile and it damn well better not suck - before we expected it to suck. we expected the music to be boring and the smoke to bother us. we got drinks and sat with people if we knew anybody or we wandered away from the dancefloor and talked somewhere. might as well have just stayed home. since we always had drinks or were always trying to get one more at open bar, even when a good song came on we were occupied. when i was single i would go from room to room, say hi to some people, maybe dance in one room, walk to another, walk back, etc. but nate and i just found a place to stand/sit and spent pretty much the whole time there.

anyway if you *want* to go, you should. it doesn't always suck and i think i'll always like that space better. i haven't noticed if there are request sheets up there lately but you can request stuff on the LJ, or request that certain DJs get more time or more sets, if you pay enough attention to determine who you like.

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