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I was in boxing and I paired off with a girl I don't usually notice. She's tall and thin, very nice, pretty damn funny, but I don't know much about her. As I worked with her, I noticed she wasn't terribly good - but she was very determined. She didn't stop when she was tired, and she would try much harder with the least bit of prompting. As I noticed this, I found her damn sexy. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't like leering at the girl in class - I just appreciated something I hadn't noticed before. I've been finding this with more people, seeing the DEAD SEXY of people that I might not notice in my initial glance. I thought perhaps I might be growing up and learning to love the differences between people, growing as a person myself. Then I realized it's just fucking spring again...

Saw the same super-hot girl in the gym that I did the other day. This time she came over and worked by a machine I was on, and was with a guy. He did that look-back thing at me - guy thing, saw me looking, looked back - not aggressively - but to sort of uh...mark territory. So, less staring! I'm very respectful of couples. I have friends who aren't, or who don't make as many snap judgments as I do. I do assume that every boy and girl combination I see is a couple. Sure some are friends, some are related, but I'd much rather err on the side of respectful. I loathe anyone who doesn't respect a monog couple. That's just gross.

What pussies! Two schools are closed because of mercury spills. I thought this sounded reasonable until I heard the reason the middle-school was closed was because someone broke a fucking thermometer. So what!? We broke several when I was in Jr. High, and all the teacher did was scoop up the mercury into pieces of paper. Is it more dangerous that I thought, or are we shielding children from minuscule particles of harm while we fill the air with toxins and deplete the ozone layer? Any inconsistency here?

Frienditto is on sale on ebay - ha!

Date: 2005-03-08 12:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coronalrain.livejournal.com
mmm... spring is definitely arriving.

and i have always recognized your respect of couples and i think more people need to show that kind of respect.

Date: 2005-03-08 12:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greatevil.livejournal.com
I love spring. I miss spring on campus. Spring is just fun, unless your in a cubical.

I respect your respect for coupels however the only people who need to respect copels is the people in them, if that were the case then the rest would work it self out. This is obviusly not the case.

Date: 2005-03-08 01:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
I think I totally disagree, but I'm not sure what you're saying. I know people who subscribe to the theory that you just hit on anyone, and if they're in a couple so what - if they accept then the couple wasn't respectable. I think that is a complete load and is simply a poor justification to justify gross behavior. There are plenty of genuine couples that face serious problems because some jackass moved in at a weak moment. There are also many couples that wouldn't have made it, but it is basic decency to let the couple live or die on their own before "moving in for the kill."

I also fully support the justifiable homicide defense in cases of adultery for either gender. This doctrine has dangerous ramifications for mistakes though...

Now I'm not saying all couples mean hands off, there is that whole poly thing blah blah - but again I err on the side of respect.

Date: 2005-03-08 01:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greatevil.livejournal.com
I too error on the side of respect and agree with your that not doing so is in bad taste. I have even been the victom of the sinario you list above, however I am big into personal responsability. I own what I do, I expect that the people I am involved with will do the same. The scummy person who was instigating may be out of line but if something "bad" (quoted because it is not an aboslute value) happens then the responsibilty is on the person who is in the couple.

Date: 2005-03-08 02:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] railwaymadness
I don't think couples need any more respect than anyone else. There's polite and there's skeevy, regardless of how much you know about the person's background. "Moving in" on someone hardly sounds polite.

Homicide? Oh please. Yes, it's a violation of trust and may very well destroy the relationship. But it's not like your partner ate your baby.

Date: 2005-03-08 03:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Oh I do. Absolutely. It's just wrong - you don't hit on someone that is taken (in a monog relationship...god freaks make everything so complicated). If you move on someone you know is in a couple, that is by the very definition skeevy - it's against the couple's rules. If that person happens to give in, it doesn't erase the original problem of the skank who aggressed when it was not allowed.

Homicide is often mitigated based on adultery. I'm sorry, but I'd kill someone for either eating my child or fucking my wife.

Date: 2005-03-08 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pastor-saturn.livejournal.com
All this talk is making me hungry...

Date: 2005-03-08 05:58 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] railwaymadness
I guess I've never had a very clear line between "being friends with", "flirting with", and "hitting on". So to me your statement is "You should not speak to anybody who is taken." And, given that it seems to be acceptable behavior for a guy to physically push away any other man who may want to speak to "his woman" for any reason, I don't think I'm very far off the mark.

Wow. It never occurred to me that the person you would be killing wouldn't be your wife. Killing the other party -- the one that had no obligation to you and very well may not have been aware of your existence. Wow.

Date: 2005-03-08 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
That does get fuzzy. No, I was thinking more of directly and blantantly hitting on a very-taken someone with obvious intention. I think the intention part is the most relevant. Talking to and being friends with is uh...normal I think. In our crowd flirting is normal, as are open relationships that blow the whole thing out the window. That's fine too :)

I hope it's not acceptable behavior to physically push away anyone who talks to 'his woman' (the guy marks with his urine). I also get creeped out by guys who are jealous of nothing.

I dunno - last time I knew someone hit on my gf, I had hung out with them before they went out for a night on the town - and I was happy to be left alone at home. So I think that qualifies me as not some randomly jealous maniac. It was only when she woke me at 3am furious that the scumbag had tried to kiss her repeatedly that I was a lil annoyed. The next day he first denied the activity, then I let him snivle his way out of it w/o a beat-down. Perhaps I was overzealous with my use of the term "kill." If I had beat him down and put him in the hospital, that seems like it would have been appropriate to me.

Definately kill the other party, though often both are in the running. Much easier to blame the other party than the one who you care about so much that their cheating makes you homicidal. I'm not saying I do this, but when it happens as Chris Rock says "I understand."

Date: 2005-03-08 01:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] one-andrea.livejournal.com
I'm going to look into the mercury spills. What I think is that these levels are so low that they really wouldn't hurt anyone, but I will check that. Spring ah yes lots of sex;)

Date: 2005-03-08 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] one-andrea.livejournal.com
http://water.usgs.gov/wid/FS_216-95/FS_216-95.html

Date: 2005-03-08 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Neat source, though it doesn't cover direct contact or how pools of mecury solids not exposed to water transmits to air. I know as I child I went to the hospital because I bit a thermometer and was poisoned. No damage that I can < twitch > tell.

Date: 2005-03-08 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kernelpanic.livejournal.com
Mercury, a liquid metal, vaporizes pretty easily. And, it is hella poisonous. See references to "mad hatter"

Date: 2005-03-08 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cobwellac.livejournal.com
These mercury things are getting to be ridiculous. I mean, a broken thermometer??? C'mon! They've actually closed school b/c of it. I think that long-term exposure to large amounts of mercury is harmful, but brief exposure to such a small amount (less than a half teaspoon is what the news said) should be harmless. Some people recall holding mercury in their hands during science class back in the day before we became such extreme pussies. Those people are fine today. Americans have gotten so silly in the past 15 years.

Date: 2005-03-08 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-dasboot.livejournal.com
They used to give some to kids in doctor's waiting rooms, to play with. Long term effects cause cancer, but short term is nothing. I suspect they closed the schools to avoid the wrath of uninformed parents yelling bout how their school is doing nothing about the toxins laying around. Unfortunately, the kids must be realizing this and breaking thermostats just to close school. It's even easier than calling in a bomb threat.

Date: 2005-03-08 02:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Exactly what I think is going on.

We are...we are raising a nation of pusies - no wonder there are so many people who voted for Bush out of fear of terrorists! These same morons don't want their children to play on swings!

Date: 2005-03-08 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunnyfunny.livejournal.com
OMG playgrounds SUCK nowadays!

Date: 2005-03-08 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] translucent-eye.livejournal.com
you are so right! (and its not just because I'm bigger now). Where are the see-saws...and the high monkey bars...and things you can get hurt on, but at the same time, have lots of fun with.

And they call these things slides? Come on!

Date: 2005-03-08 03:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chadu.livejournal.com
I agree that this is the modern equivalent of the bomb threat, but there are a couple things:

* Since mercury vaporizes speedily, placing a container with the juice from 5 to 10 thermometers on a radiator (which is what happened in the first case) could poison an entire building and cause immediate sickness (actute exposure issues) as well as long-term effects. So, it's a real threat, here.

* The new scare -- broken thermometer issue -- seems like overkill, but there aren't supposed to be any mercury thermometers in the schools. They had a sweep to remove them for just these reasons in 2001 or 2002. So, either this thermometer was overlooked (sloppy DC school/health system) or some kid brought it in (bomb threat).

* It's ludicrous, but I bet we're going to see more copycats outside the Beltway. Look for it being impossible for a kid under 18 to buy a thermometer in the Midwest within 3 years.

CU

Date: 2005-03-08 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
It makes sense to remove the thermometers, and I wasn't aware it vaporized easily. So, our teachers were wrong when they failed to panic?

We absolutely be having copycat crimes...if the snow won't get you out, and the fire alarm sprays ink...watch some office worker in DC figure this out!

Date: 2005-03-08 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chadu.livejournal.com
It makes sense to remove the thermometers, and I wasn't aware it vaporized easily. So, our teachers were wrong when they failed to panic?

My chem teachers always vigorously washed their hands (or had us do so) after playing with mercurcy drops the size of a half-dollar. This was back in the days of "mercury-poisoning from fish" scare, so that's probably why.

But none of them worried overmuch about vaporized mercury, because you'd have to heat it. One of them did mention the "mad hatter" thing and the fact that a lot of alchemists in the Middle Ages and Renaissance killed themselves with it.

But yeah, just wait until some middle-class suburban white kids start doing this outside the Beltway. It'll be all over the media.

CU

Date: 2005-03-08 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Not necessarily. If it's a bunch of jocks it'll be a practical joke and youthful exuberance. If it's a kid with dyed hair and/or the infamous trench coat, it'll be all over FOX and they'll pass new legislation with guidance on how to spot deviants.

Date: 2005-03-08 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
I've thought of moving - the constant stream of embarrassment is getting to be a bit much.
From: [identity profile] sunnyfunny.livejournal.com
"I thought perhaps I might be growing up and learning to love the differences between people, growing as a person myself." *sniff* the boy's growing up "Then I realized it's just fucking spring again..." Then I realized, this is Jose speaking...

"He did that look-back thing at me - guy thing, saw me looking, looked back - not aggressively - but to sort of uh...mark territory."

I think it'd be much easier if he had lifted his leg and pissed on her. *rolls eyes* Once I was with a guy at a club, ran into someone I used to work with and the guy actually pushed my co-worker back and said "back-off". The funny part was they actually went to high school together and ended up at the bar taking shots.

Bravo on respecting couples. I mean if nothing else people, it's simply a matter of do unto others.

Bah! Shutting down schools for a broken thermometer... "when *I* was a kid, we didn't HAVE candy... we just bit the end off a thermometer and sucked out the mercury... and we LIKED IT"

and now it isn't...

Date: 2005-03-08 03:20 pm (UTC)
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Date: 2005-03-10 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underfiend.livejournal.com
Spring in the year of the cock. Only ill can come of this.
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