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No, say it isn't so! How dare the people who play basketball and football ruin the good family entertainment by spoiling it with violence!? Uh...listen. Sports are violent, and the people that play them professionally are thugs, rapists, and other scumbag criminals. Sports are not family entertainment unless families are playing them. I mean, have people forgotten the jocks from high school, the thugz from the street, and the frat boys from college? These are those same people - why would anyone expect these physically abusive rapists to be any different when you throw money at them? On the other hand, saw the video of the events and the violence at the game only erupted into the stands when some jerk threw their drink at the player. He deserved as ass-beating, as did all the follow-ups. It's bad enough to yell the offensive crap they do, but there is no reason to have free reign to hurl crap at the players.

I've never understood why troubled youths were 'inspired' with professional athletes to get their act together. Yeah, take someone who didn't graduate HS or had a fake-ride through college so they could play a game for a living - and use them to inspire responsible behavior from truant youth? Why not try and take someone who pulled their act together and got a real job as inspiration? Inspiring thugz with people who engage in physical violence for a living - not such a great idea. Let's compare how many thugz who shoot to be professional thugz...I mean athletes, to how many people are successful at becoming say...accountants. Can you inspire scumbags to leave the physical behind and do the responsible thing?

So...I loved cherrytool last night. I think I'M FINALLY BETTER as the smoke didn't kill me and for the first time in a week I could sleep w/o drugs. I got to spend all night being adored and flirting with yummy people, which makes me a happy panda. The only weird thing was the music - it was really cool early on, playing great old stuff (but not really danceable), but then it switched to synthypopcrap for what seemed like hours. Aaron played neat stuff (or is that Erin, I never remember) but it was in the back with the art fags...oh hi Chris! I left w/o dancing, le sigh. Still, the crowd was fun to watch and interact with. Maybe I just think it's a good night when I get felt up (yay)!
EDIT - nearly forgot my favorite idea of the night - you know the 'slut saddle,' those tattoos that you get right above your ass like all the white chicks are doing at Ocean City to prove they're cool? Well we got a great new one - the USB symbol. Nothing says slut or at least slut wannabe like a over your ass! Available at the Hot Topic piercing huts this spring! Me, I'm getting a tattoo too:

I would like to take a moment to pay heed to the mormons - aren't they great!? I mean it takes balls to be a member of a religion that is based on a history that can so easily be disproven. It's demonstrably fake - pretty good! Most people are following fake belief systems based on events before recorded history, stated so vaguely it's difficult to diprove with anything but logic. Not the mormons...they go straight for the impossible. Go you!

Date: 2004-11-21 06:03 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Anything is better when you're discussing Stile Project. -- mike

Date: 2004-11-21 08:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joanarkham.livejournal.com
Actually, I was thinking of this: .

So, when are you going to get it?

Date: 2004-11-21 08:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Damnit...I couldn't find one and you nailed it before my edit. Yeah, that is actually much more realistic.

When...er uh...well of course I _want to_ right away, but I've got this thing I'm doing, and then of course there is that whole money thing...plus it's really only right if you get it drunk at the beach with your friends...uh...

key school

Date: 2004-11-21 08:20 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] eriss.livejournal.com
How the hell did I missed seeing you? What time were you there?

Re: key school

Date: 2004-11-21 08:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Er, 10-12 or maybe 1 or so? I was out of character - I wore pants.

Re: key school

Date: 2004-11-21 08:49 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] eriss.livejournal.com
I was out of character - I wore pants.

Ah, that's why I didn't see you.

Date: 2004-11-21 08:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anarcha.livejournal.com
"would like to take a moment to pay heed to the Mormons - aren't they great!? I mean it takes balls to be a member of a religion that is based on a history that can so easily be disproven. It's demonstrably fake - pretty good! Most people are following fake belief systems based on events before recorded history, stated so vaguely it's difficult to diprove with anything but logic. Not the mormons...they go straight for the impossible. Go you!"

Y'know, I have to say here, every single Mormon I've ever met (and that's a total of *4*) has been really cool. Yes, they've been ultra-religious and ultra-conservative, but never once did I get the sense that I was being condemned or judged by them for being different.

(Of course, they were all non-Utah Mormons, and were probably heavily influenced by the fact that they themselves were a minority, and a minority that others look down upon)

One of my favorite co-workers at my firm (until she moved out of the area) was a fairly hard-core Mormon (i.e. long sleeves and skirts, no caffeine, tons of kids, no makeup, and I don't think she even believed in dancing). She and I always got along very very well. We each were members of a social group that is sometimes mocked; and we both didn't fit in with the lawyer stereotype.

Her view was always "this is what is important to me, but I'm not going to judge you if you don't share the same views"

Like I've written, she and I always got along very very well (in part because we would shoot snarky comments back and forth about yuppies (and jeebus, I sound shallow now)) But she was actually one of the most accepting people I've ever met (and by "accepting", I DON'T mean "I'll smile now and then pray for your soul behind your back") and all she ever expected of her non-Mormon friends was that they respect her choice.

Date: 2004-11-21 08:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Your mormon experience is very different from mine. I've pitied and hated all the mormons I've ever met - they've all been fucked up or mean, some both. I'm not treating people like shit because I know they're mormons though, I'm just mocking their belief system. It's simply proven to be inaccurate, and it's - if you'll pardon the pun - moronic.

So you two got along because you had mocking in common, or because your ostracization pushed you together. That's not like me at all...I'm being affirmatively negative!

Date: 2004-11-21 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_blackjack_/
Sorry, I'm with her. With maybe one or two exceptions, the Mormons's I've know have been terribly nice, non-judgmental, happy, good-looking, talented, smart and interesting to talk to. Eeerily so. That's why the South Park episode on the Mormon kid was so funny. You can't NOT like them, even though they believe some stuff that is ridiculous even by Christian standards. And many of them were fully aware of the absurdities, even discussing some of the stuff they don't make public, but remained with their faith because, well, they were nice, non-judgmental, happy, good-looking, talented, smart and interesting to talk to.

I did briefly date a girl from a Mormon family that didn't fit the mold. She was good-looking and smart, sure, but both she and her younger sister (with whom I had previously flirted briefly before realizing how young she was) had ended up alcoholics by junior high. Their parents only had the two kids, which is pretty unusual as well. My theory was that they had been put on some sort of eugenic probation...

not feeling overly eloquent, sorry.

Date: 2004-11-21 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jennbits.livejournal.com
couple of those things...

"Slut Saddle" hahah -- I always called these "Ass Antlers"

and re pro athletes, i guess instead of teaching responsibility these days, we teach all of our lovely little ADD children responsibility according to what is "fun."

Sucks when they grow up, because a large portion of life isn't that fucking fun. They're gonna hit that like a brick wall.

Re: not feeling overly eloquent, sorry.

Date: 2004-11-21 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilkender.livejournal.com
slut saddle
Ass Antlers

"tramp stamp"

ass antlers

Date: 2004-11-21 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] desiringmachine.livejournal.com
What is up with all this discussion of these tattoos? It's not like they're new, people had those when I was in high school.

I still don't see why an entire expanse of skin has to be off limits because some porn star or sorority girl has a tattoo there too.

Date: 2004-11-21 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_blackjack_/
I agree with you about sports. Look at the kind of money that is going into bringing baseball to DC, when DC public libraries only operate 3 days per week because of lack of funding. Sports exhalt the physical over the intellectual, foment gratuitous factionalism ("People who like [team x] suck because I like [team y]! I like [team y] because...um...the corporation that purchased them is headquartered in my state..."), and, as these sorts of fights demonstrate, encourage adults to act like kindergarteners. Have you ever seen how the benches clear when a batter gets hit with a pitch?

What is particularly sad is that a poor black kid is FAR more likely to become a millionaire by studying, going to college, and going into a profession than he is by playing ball, and yet somehow it is sports that is seen as their ticket out of poverty. Some argue that sports scholarships give kids who would otherwise be unable the chance to go to college. Sure, that's great, but why then have the sports requirement? Why not just give out the scholarships without making them do tricks?

Sports falls into the same category as religion, as far as I'm concerned. It disappoints me when otherwise perfectly reasonable people are drawn into it.
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