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What a boring debate. It was supposed to be a Kerry knock-out, it was a dismal failure on both sides. I am really amazed that this is a least-worst race.

On the positive side, either I've shifted populations or the direction of my attention, or this election has brought a lot of issues to the public eye. Perhaps it's the internet being such a big part of my life (oh dear god am I this bad?) but I hear a lot more fact and logic based debate than I used to. I hope this carries into the next election - not for president, but for the congressmen and local officials who actually make decisions about people's lives. Isn't the executive branch supposed to carry out existing laws, making who is in office less relevant?

I won't listen to anyone that is 100% for either Bush or Kerry. There is no way that anyone agrees with the myriad of issues they 'represent.' Someone that believes w/o reservation that either will represent them on all the issues facing this country is a moron.

The problem as I see it is that many of the issues they're throwing at the president are not executive branch issues. Care about gay marriage and abortion? Vote for or against your congressperson. I think eventually Arnold will be president, for no matter how much you teach government in public school, people still hold the ideology that some men are leaders, and that the one guy in the executive office is somehow in charge in a way that judges and congresspeople are not. I think in their heart of hearts people are voting for someone based on how much they remind them of a backyard bar-b-que buddy, and expect him to grab a gun and shoot the bad guy's henchmen before taking out the opposing leader with a flying scissor-kick.

Date: 2004-10-14 06:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wabmart.livejournal.com
people still hold the ideology that some men are leaders, and that the one guy in the executive office is somehow in charge in a way that judges and congresspeople are not.

You mean, electing a "leader" who knows what to do and to following his dictums? God, that sounds so familiar (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuhrerprinzip).

Date: 2004-10-14 07:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetslade.livejournal.com
See, I didn't even know there was a debate on...I was watching baseball!! I'm so un-American, but yet, so American!!!

Date: 2004-10-14 07:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
That's completely americuhn. Baseball - the only sport more boring than the debate, and one you can play out of shape! Even more american! Yawn...

Date: 2004-10-14 07:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetslade.livejournal.com
Nope, more boring than the debate would be golf. Ugh.

I dunno, I've seen some Sumo wrestlers that aren't in too good o'shape!!

Date: 2004-10-14 08:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Golf is by far the best sport...for hangovers. They talk softly, and no matter how long you pass out for, when you wake up the same thing is happening as when you went to sleep.

Sumo fellas are actually in great shape - it's very demanding training. Sure they're fat, but they're strong as all hell too.

Date: 2004-10-14 08:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] velvetslade.livejournal.com
True dat, I have heard about Sumo'ers being in good shape. Guess I can't get past the fat part, and to me, that's not something good.

I personally like the weather channel for hangovers. For some odd reason, that's soothing to me. Golf, uumm, nah!!! But I do see your point!! ;-)

Date: 2004-10-14 11:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-dasboot.livejournal.com
They aren't really all that fat. When you see a normal person who is grossly obese, you're seeing mostly fat attatched to very little muscle. Sumo wrestlers, however, are mostly muscle, with a layer of fat on the outside. Pound for pound, they don't have very much body fat. Oddly enough, the only Sumo wrestler I've ever seen that had a lot of nasty, droopy fat, was Akebono, who was American.

PS, they're also seen as sex symbols in Asia. Sumo champions get the same kind of sexual attention that our hollywood hunks get.

Date: 2004-10-14 09:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cweaselle.livejournal.com
Don't blame me, I'm voting for Kodos.

I think most Americans don't really understand why Arnold can't be president right now. I really believe that they vote for the best looking canidate. It has very little to do with politics.

Date: 2004-10-14 11:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-dasboot.livejournal.com
That's what the executive branch is supposed to do, however we're no longer in a system where all three branches work individually. It was designed as a form of checks and balances, so that one branch wasn't all powerful over the others. Now adays, it's far more of a two party system than a three branch system, for checks and balances. When both the Senate and the House are run by the same political party as the President, he has a whole lot more power than the executive branch is supposed to.

Date: 2004-10-14 01:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tiana67.livejournal.com
taking out the opposing leader with a flying scissor-kick
Ooh Yah!

O.K. That settles it then, I wanna vote for JACKIE CHAN for president!

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