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[vicarz]

I like the gothic breakdancers, and want to learn how to do that. There, I said it. That looks fucking cool no matter how inaccurate it is. I liked breakdancing in 1984 and I like it now. I hate it and like it at the same time. I used to know how to pop a little, and could do backtucks and kip-ups.

I might hit alchemy, with my cut-up hand wraps tied around my shins to soothe my shin splints and allow me to dance. My fear is 1) looking like a dork, 2) having other people think it's cool, imitate it, then see leg-ties for sale in hot topical.

PIMP: Drawn of the dead: The cartoon apocolypse of Slash
will be shown at chiaroscuro_dc this Saturday, ensuring that I will be in attendance.

Maybe I can get Slash...I've got it! Slash and I have done the "mini-me" act by showing up in the same cammo cut-offs and black tank tops before. We just need to put together a breaking routine like the two black goth guys in the SP video! Dood - we'd rock the goth breakdance world! Muscle-bound gothic breakdancers rule!

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[mpeace.livejournal.com]

this Saturday, ensuring that I will be in attendance

Depending on a certain person's emotional state, we may be there as well. :)

[ex-dasboot.livejournal.com]

I've actually been breaking for about 2 years now. It's a great workout and fun as hell...if you really want to learn anything, I could show you some of the basics. I really want to find some places up here where people just show up and goof around, practicing, especially now that my shoulder is finally healed after dislocating it when I fucked up a 90 body lock a few months ago. Oh yeah, this is Chris, Tiana's new roomie.

PS It's not that innacurate, 3 of the guys I used to break with back in Florida went to the goth night there. Every now and then we'd clear a little circle and go at it in fishnets and vinyl, heh.

[vicar.livejournal.com]

Ew! Ew! But yeah - I'd love to learn...I'll still make fun of it and loudly declare how it doesn't belong in my lil subculture, and that the whole thing is a giant symptom of how these new video kideos just sucked up the look without any of the meaning or culture that it represented...but I'd love to know how to do it. Sounds silly, but I could never quite pick up that lil kicky step thing. Dunno when I'll have time though - school starts for me soon. If you don't know how, I could teach you how to fake nunchucks.

Damn I tried to kip up and I couldn't do it. Grr! Could barely do a bridge so I think handsprings are out.

Added you to f-list.

[cweaselle.livejournal.com]

Exactly what was the meaning of the gothic subculture? This isn't sarcasm either. I just never found meaning in it.

[vicar.livejournal.com]

Oh lordy um...well let's see...what it used to be to me:
Educated and/or intelligent people who sidestepped mainstream desires
infatuation with the dark and morose - graveyardy stuff
taking pleasure from comiseration, similar types of rejected pasts
open to many types of looks and behaviors not accepted by the mainstream, but not completely open to such things as physical aggression / picking on people
dressing to keep people at bay, stop the harassment

[cweaselle.livejournal.com]

I don't see that. I see people judging people on the way they look, how they dress, what music they listen to, how smart they are. I see constant comments on how "cool" people are because their music/dress/appearance/intelect is better than so and so. Maybe it's just me, but I don't find what you seem to. I like the music and I like the style of dress. I like to talk about comics and movies. Goths seem to be more in keeping with things I like. I like the companionship, but everyone one I know still judges everyone else.

[vicar.livejournal.com]

Of course they judge - they should. You need to be held accountable for your behavior, and strangers are judged quickly - often in relation to their threat level, sometimes just by how annoying they are.

I have not really run into the cool clothes judging, but I've always dressed like shit. I find the new kids, the hot topic kids, are more into the look with nothing else - it's just about intentional shock value, gee aren't we all so bad blah blah, cool like us blah blah.

Every social group and every mamal judges - that's normal.

[cweaselle.livejournal.com]

I didn't say it wasn't normal, in fact it being normal is my point. Goths aren't any different than anyone else. I find that the young goths do want people to like them, but we did too. I think that by not really giving them a chance we discount *people* that's all any of us are. Some of the older goths are annoying. We were annoying assholes when we didn't have very many friends. We were the ones that were picked on and hated and desperate for friends not so very long ago. I understand where they're coming from.

You say you don't know people that judge on dress, but think, we know lots of people that judge on dress. I think that once you've been accepted, it's easy to say the scene is accepting. It's not. My friend Jen never got invited anywhere because she wasn't "presentable" as I was once told. You don't even remember who she is.I got lots of invitations because I was presentable I guess. Now that I'm older I don't want to play the intrigue game, but I know that it's there.

That's my I got up too early and haven't had my tea yet two cents.

[vicar.livejournal.com]

No, goths aren't any different - but they have changed with time and social acceptance. There is a difference between judging and giving people a chance - I judge negatively a lot, but still wait to see how the person turns out overall.

I've never rejected someone for not being presentable, nor do I have friends who judge by those standards - unless we're talking about behavior. Dressing horrible is one thing, grabbing butts another.

You're cute when you're grumpy. Grump! mumble...

[cweaselle.livejournal.com]

I'm not grumpy. I just hate when people get all "goths are the best people ever". You say judge negatively, and other people get the sense that you mean it negatively. As we've obviously seen in past, I look past peoples outward flaws and give them a chance. I'm not always that forgiving but I try. I do that with normal people as well. Just because someones goth doesn't mean I have anything in common with them.

When the person said presentable they meant Jen was fat. Everyone I know has something wrong with them, goths inlcuded. Why is fat so wrong? The next time I see you I'll name names about who judges by dress, I'm not interested in doing so in public.

[vicar.livejournal.com]

Okies. Oh the irony, now that the goth scene is known for eating cake.

[cweaselle.livejournal.com]

That's true and as alot of us get old we get heavier too. Especially you. Old that is.

[vicar.livejournal.com]

You...you called me fat! Or old. Or old and fat. Or fat and old.

Or silly.

[tony-laetrile.livejournal.com]

also cake

[tiana67.livejournal.com]

I was actually going to tell you to talk to dasboot about the break dancing thing, glad to see you both found each other.

After I get more renovations completed and I clean up the basement, do you think there'd be enough room down there to break dance? I WANNA LEARN!

[monty-dc.livejournal.com]

Eeeewww! Breakdancing! /shudder We will NOT be reliving that particular episode in my life...no, I never did! NEVER! I will NOT admit it! You will never make me...er, wait...damn!

[redsteve.livejournal.com]

Ah, breakdancing - it's like Capoeira, but without the hitting. Think about it, Jose, practicing Capoeria might fit your busy schedule easier than breakdancing AND boxing.