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Argh - Strange Boutique is quite funny for me right now. I've been listening to what appears to be the CD "Charm" by the cover and artwork on the CD, but registers in the media player as "Loved one." This would be easy for me to figure out if I could just understand the words, but with all the echo-ey vocals I can't fathom a bloody word so even with the lyric sheets I can't understand a word and remain in the dark.




from http://www.mercyground.com/StrangeBoutique/

Freaks me out how music can rip emotions from you when people can't.

Wouldn't it be convenient if you could see who...what someone was by looking at them? If someone dull as a rock looked...like a rock (a dull one!)? If someone happy looked happy, full of pain looked hurt, if some...perhaps people do look like this already, and I just can't see it. I understand I'm as transparent as an aquarium fish.

Date: 2004-07-12 07:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nixieq.livejournal.com
start paying attention to body language. start listening to what people really *say*. it's surprising how often they'll tell you what they're like...

Date: 2004-07-12 07:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
I can't hear the lyrics, and I am bad enough at understanding people's words that trying to then figure out the unspoken is...hopeless. I am thankful for one thing though - people are consistent in their patterns of behavior. I'm much quicker to recognize someone who is unreliable, unfaithful, sucks attention at any cost, a constant state of wreck to wreck to wreck...in a word no matter how nice or mean someone seems at a glance, that it takes a long pattern of behavior before I really know much about them.

A lot of mistakes and mininterpretations are forgivable over time.

Similarly we could look to the message sender to ensure that their message is being received.

Date: 2004-07-12 07:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nixieq.livejournal.com
no, i mean literally, pay attention to the things they say, like "i'm so ___________". usually they're telling the truth, even if they think they're joking. "i'm so clumsy!" "i'm such an airhead!" "i hate _________s" etc. some of it's commenting on things they know about themselves (whether they like those things or not), and some of it's... sort of unintentional. like that guy i was dating hanging out with last year, who joked -- several times -- that he was an addictions counselor because he liked controlling people. if somebody makes a joke like that once, it's probably a joke. but if they say it multiple times, then it's enough of a theme in their thoughts that, whether they think they're serious or not, it's probably true. it was pretty obvious by the time i told him to fuck off that he did have issues with manipulating people, and with wanting to control people, and so forth.

people will flat-out tell you things about themselves. pay attention to those patterns, too; they tend to show up a little quicker than actual behavioral patterns.

Date: 2004-07-12 07:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nixieq.livejournal.com
oh, for fuck's sake... sorry about the bad close-tag there. i can repost if it's too annoying to read it like that.

Date: 2004-07-12 07:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
I do wish LJ would let us edit our comments! But no, it's fine as-is, I get it :) At least it didn't carry down the whole page!

Yeah - oddly enough I've heard a lot about controlling freaks in the counseling and medical professions. Scary shit there - it was bad enough finding out they were cops! Why can't all control people just regulate that shit to the bedroom, huh?

Attention to detail is not one of my strong points, but...that's good advice you give there too. Me, I'm fat and stupid. :)

I do read thigns sometimes though. I was talking to Della in the hipster room when I just noticed the common clothing string. To try and fit in, I pulled my shirt down as low as the collar would go and screamed "PLEASE LIKE ME! PLEASE LIKE ME!!!" Poor Della needed a medic to revive her she laughed so hard. It just so happens after years of LOOK AT ME LIKE ME LIKE ME behavior I can recognize it in the diving necklines. So um...ok that's not 100% related but it makes me giggle.

Date: 2004-07-12 07:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nixieq.livejournal.com
hee! yes, cleavage is a tool that should be used wisely...

and remember, tell yourself something often enough and you'll believe it! (which ties on to what i said above -- whether or not what someone says about himself is necessarily true, it's generally what he believes to be true. just a thought. >;)

Date: 2004-07-12 07:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
For most people that applies, doesn't seem to fit me though. Look at how gay I am, what a whore I am, compared to my verbalizations on the subject. If anything, I make up with mouth for what I lack in action ;) In some areas, that's a better way to go (ignoring the idea that those areas may not such great advertising features...)

Date: 2004-07-12 07:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] baronsamdi.livejournal.com
oo oo! I read silly fantasy-type book once where everyone got a disease. A scab covered your entire head and when it cracked and fell off, you had your "true" appearance.

The villain guy was just a skull with veins crawling all over it. He was very bad.

Date: 2004-07-12 07:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Heh! You know someone would just think the skull and veins were cool, hell there is probably a skull and veins fetish community somewhere on the net.

I guess in practice you would either need a standardized system, or just acknowlege that different people would like different things. Kind of...like we have now. Shit.

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