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You know, when I finished school I was looking forward to having more interesting things to say in LJ - you know, real stories about real people doing real things, not just headlines.

But "Guards probed for naked Iraqi prisoners" is hard to resist! Probe! I think it was [profile] shadow27 who took the time to point out the irony of how if you're caught 'being gay' you're thrown out of the military, yet here we are making prisoners act 'gay?' Ye gods man!

I'm not sure how to feel about this. I'm sorry, but the publicity is kind of filling me with glee. Why? Bush and his crew have been the ire of me and any literate Americans (and our victims) for years now, and even the left-wing is in shock as his crew has surpassed all our worst fears. So now he's getting busted over something he almost couldn't have known about, and while he is the guy at the top it seems unfair to hold him responsible for. It's like a murderer getting jail-time for a murder they didn't commit - it's not justice, but it's close? Of all the horrible things he is responsible for, this is what may finally sink him. So Bush commits all sorts of atrocities himself, but some low-level part-time officers with digital cameras will be his undoing. Right result, wrong reason. Ultimately I'm not comfortable with it. Why can't the US rise up and just learn to tell right from wrong? Why does it take these incidents to turn them against Bush, when his direct actions are all so reprehensible?

Michael Moore: this guy is a chump, the left-wing Rush Limbaugh. He is as liberal with the 'facts' as Rush, and uses just as many illogical emotional appeals. I would never call him a voice of reason, and reason to me trumps any political bias. In any case, he is getting TONS of free press for his release, and now looks like a martyred cause. His movie will almost certainly be released now by someone, and will make a bloody fortune since it's forbidden fruit.

Kerry: anyone else notice that the FBI had a file on him based on his anti-war activity? Isn't it nice that for decades the government has been ready to pounce on political dissidents? Freedom is the freedom to agree with what you are told? Terrorism starts with questioning the people in power?

Date: 2004-05-06 06:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eac.livejournal.com
Kerry: anyone else notice that the FBI had a file on him based on his anti-war activity?

Please tell me that this isn't a new idea for you. The idea that the FBI had a file on him is so commonplace that it didn't even seem worth noticing...

Date: 2004-05-06 06:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] djvampira.livejournal.com
Michael Moore's new movie is all about the Bush familiy's many connections with the ruling Saudi Arabian family. Most documentary film makers use emotions to get their points across. That is nothing new.

Date: 2004-05-06 06:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadow27.livejournal.com
So now he's getting busted over something he almost couldn't have known about,
Except that the Red Cross was reporting the abuses a year ago. And apparently the spooks in our government have been breaking international conventions for quite some time and using the prison to do so.

The cotnention that the president is not responsible and did not know about it is flimsy, at best. Unless of course he said "do whatever it takes, just don't tell me about it." However given his history and general disregard for people lives I'm certain he knew some of it.

Date: 2004-05-06 07:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
That would certainly bump him up a notch on the evil scale. Those silly guys, playing fraternity pranks on prisoners! Don't see what the big fuss is about...how many were killed again?

Date: 2004-05-06 07:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jennbits.livejournal.com
Michael Moore: this guy is a chump, the left-wing Rush Limbaugh.

Change that to, "Michael Moore: this guy is a chump, the left-wing Ann Coulter," and you'll have something I have said a million and five times.

FINALLY someone who agrees with me among all the idiot liberal sheep that believe he is a god.

OMG BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE WAS SO GOOOD! Uh yeah.

Date: 2004-05-06 07:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
No - he's a twit. I don't give people who agree with me any more weight - data and logic should govern policy, not emotional appeals in many cases. If we reduce ourselves to a battle of the PR firms, then everyone loses.

"...but what about the CHILDREN!? You don't HATE CHILDREN, do you?!"

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