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(plagarized from a guy you don't know)

Why does gay marriage matter? Here are 1049 reasons:
In 1997 they asked the CBO that same question, framed along the lines of "What are the legal benefits of marriage?" They found 1049: http://www.marriageequality.org/1049.pdf

The only things that seem to discourage people from amending the Constitution to prevent the right of gay marriage to be granted are:
Article V of the Constitution,
the history of Constitutional Amendments in the U.S.,
the various mechanisms for such Amendments (by Congress versus by the States),
some of the more relevant controversies (i.e. the historical efforts to bar any effort to "interfere, within any State, with the domestic institutions thereof"),
what it takes to amend the Constitution,
and maybe whether the current effort by Bush to restrict the definition of marriage (a domestic institution if ever there was one) would violate the law, would violate the political question doctrine, or would survive Judicial review, etc.

See the annotations beginning at:
http://conlaw.usatoday.findlaw.com/constitution/article05/01.html

Date: 2004-02-25 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] n8-zilla.livejournal.com
i really want to know how they'll square an
amendment that discriminates against american
citizens with the equal protection clause of the 14th
amendment. can we have the constitution contradicting
itself? wouldn't they have to repeal at least that part
of the 14th to make this abomination fit?

Date: 2004-02-25 12:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
Would you prefer the
"Four legs good, two legs better!"
or
"We are at war with Eurasia. We have alway been at war with Eurasia."
response?

Hey, this ignores the whole seperate but equal issue. That's the next runner-up. It worked so well for those minority fellows...what ever happend to them, anyway? Oh well, I'm sure it all worked out.

damned gays

Date: 2004-02-25 12:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cweaselle.livejournal.com
I think that we should abolish all marriages. I think that marriage is ruining marriage. The Romans didn't have these problems. If they wanted to be married they said...hey you want to be married? Lets move in together. That's it. If they wanted to be divorced they moved away from eachother with the intention of being divorced.

Personally, I think that all marriage is stupid. I've lived with the same boy for 3 years and we're not married. It makes it a little uncomfortable when people ask what our relationship is, but I'm only uncomfortable because I was taught to be.

Re: damned gays

Date: 2004-02-25 12:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com
See the other post - there are a lot of legal rights that come up. If your boy is run over by a drunk driver, and you're not married, you have no legal basis to sue the driver for your loss. There are a bazillion rights like that which make it an important issue beyond conversation.

Date: 2004-02-25 01:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] n8-zilla.livejournal.com
it's especially ironic, given that the deciding factor in bush v. gore was that dubya's equal protection guarantee was being threatened by the fla. supreme court letting the recount proceed, if i recall correctly...

Date: 2004-02-25 01:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cweaselle.livejournal.com
No, but his family can. That's really where the rub comes in...does their family like you. Besides, in most states, Va not included the "you're gonna get married whether you like it or not" law will have already gone into effect. Besides, not a few of my gay friends have just adopted eachother. Gay marriages will happen. Bush can't stop progress.

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