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vicarz ([personal profile] vicarz) wrote2008-12-11 09:45 am

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Yoinked from gymrats: Diet soda makes you fat!?
The article is a good quick read - not conclusive, but gives an interesting idea: fooling your body only works in the short term; if your body learns to associate sweet taste with no sugar, you fail to have a normal increased metabolism response to real sugar. So when you drink the diet soda, no problem, but then you actually gain more weight when you drink OJ, cranberry (*cough* white-grape), or mocha (*cough* sugar).
Here baby, have some sugar
Sugar? I want sugar, but how do I know this is sugar? Last time you said sugar I didn't get no nuffin. You was up there all tastin and I was down here going "What?" I got all the place all warm and everything ready for the sugar, kept pumping out the sugar for everyone else and then...nuthin.
It's sugar baby, just taste that!
Puh-leez, that's the same bullshit you told me last time. I'm not getting nuthin warm, not sending out no energy, not a thing. I only have so much luvin to give, and just telling me sweet things isn't going to get you any more love - I dun learned my lesson.

I. Love. It. True or not, it's a good excuse for me to ditch diet soda and switch to real stuff. This would explain why I'm able to lose weight while eating chocolate (aka the truffle diet). My body knows it is getting sugar, it is getting sugar, and it reacts accordingly. Lies suck, even to yourself.

This means the same old bad news of course - if you want to eat sweets, you have to watch how much OR overcompensate with exercise (if the theory turns out to be true).

[identity profile] joanarkham.livejournal.com 2008-12-11 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm just trying to sneak some upper-body stuff into my "workout" since I have pretty much zero time and/or energy anymore.

I thought small weight/more reps was the recommended thing for toning vs. bulking up.

scientific consensus on human use of artificial sweeteners is inconclusive

I've been drinking diet soda forever, while skinny and fat and gaining and losing. I drink like one a day.

[identity profile] vicar.livejournal.com 2008-12-11 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
There is no such thing as toning, to be honest. You either gain weight, or lose weight, gain strength (hence muscle), or lose muscle. There is no such thing as toning. Anyway, 5lbs is not going to make you any stronger and it might just be enough to cause you to injure a joint.

Small weights are only recommended by people who get paid to make recommendations.

Perhaps drinking the diet soda changed your makeup and ability to eat sugars? So you may have done it forever, but you've complained for years of substandard results in your program for the effort you put in it.

Check out the community gymrats (in my profile) and read the community info - it's got great information there about exercise, "toning," fat loss, and strength training. The short version is strength gain / lifting weights (big weights) is very important to losing unnecessary fat. Plus, the stronger you are the more groceries you can carry! Uh...

to joanarkham:

[identity profile] sparklypoof.livejournal.com 2008-12-11 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I second the [livejournal.com profile] gymrats community recommendation. and for the love of sugar, dont make a post there if you start off saying things like "I thought small weight/more reps was the recommended thing for toning vs. bulking up." - that is 100% false. and you'll get reamed for mentioning it. (they are snarky over there, but ridiculously helpful w/a wealth of fitness knowledge)

but seriously, check out the community info, read stumptuous (linked in the info) - and learn that lifting heavy things is really, really good for you. and [livejournal.com profile] vicar is right: just up the incline on your treadmill, and dont use weights on the treadmill. mebbe do 10mins at a really high incline doing a brisk walk, then get off and lift some heavy stuff a few times, and call it a day. you'll be amazed what a difference it'll make. but prepare yourself w/some knowledge first. :)

sorry, dont mean to come off preachy or anything - just, being in that gymrats community - you see ppl come in ALL THE TIME w/this notion that tiny weights + lots of reps = worthwhile. and that philosophy couldnt be further from the truth... it's just become a knee-jerk reaction at this point to help point misled aspiring fitness folks in the right direction. :)